Transport Models

Thanks for showing these models Graham, while they may not be 100% accurate, they have a certain charm about them, i particularly like the escape carrier.
The cab is quite a complex shape, and where did the escape come from ?

Added by Bristol Bob on 29 August 2010.

Bob, the wheeled escape came from Highway Models, UK in 1986.
Can you please help me with some information on Carrier Gamecock Wr.T by Carmichael 1950's. Can you tell me the W/C, First Aid Tank, and Pump Type (Godiva etc??) GPM or LPM? Thanks alot.

Added by Graham Dickens on 30 August 2010.

Sorry Graham, cannot help you with your query, but I am sure ther are several people on this site with the information.
I would guess a 400 gallon water tank.

Added by Bristol Bob on 30 August 2010.

OK thanks Bob. Hope someone else can put in some comments for me to help. Graham

Added by Graham Dickens on 30 August 2010.

Graham, re your query, can I suggest you put the request on the fire engine photos section of this site, there are several knowledgeable on there.

Added by Bristol Bob on 31 August 2010.

Graham, frightened of loosing some of the fire engine market during the 1950's to such company's as Dennis, Bedford, Miles, etc, the Rootes Group introduced the Commer-Karrier Gamecock in 1956 after close consultation with Carmichael & Sons of Worcester.
The Karrier Gamecock had a 3-4 ton payload and a 9ft 7in wheelbase making it ideal for rural, but also city brigades.Despite its very compact size, it carried 400 gallons of water.The appliance was powered by a Commer 6-cylinder 4752cc under-floor petrol engine and as was the usual(with pumping appliances being built at this time), many Commers were equipped with second-hand pumps recovered from wartime trailer pumps which could deliver-Large pump:- approx 350/500gpm, or Heavy pump:- approx 700/900gpm.
Light portable pumps were generally of the type-Coventry Climax demountable pump which could deliver 350gpm.I hope thats of some help, Pete.

Added by Pete Matten on 31 August 2010.

Pete & Graham the Carmichael gamecocks operated by Lancs county had 2 200gal tanks with a shut off valve inbetween so when app ran with escape the valve was shut and front tank empty and when running as wt both tanks were full and valve open this was because the app was overweight with esc and 400 gal early appl had dennis pumps but most had guinne pumps not sure about spelling

Added by Skippy on 02 September 2010.

Pete, thanks very much for the information on the Karrier Gamecock.It is of great help to me. It confused me a little bit as I had been doing some research on the vehicles sent to New Zealand which only had 200 gallon water tanks. I am now posting a picture of a CFA Pumper, a New South Wales Tanker of the 1950/60's period for you.

Added by Graham Dickens on 02 September 2010.

Thanks Skippy. This ties in with the New Zealand appliances I have been researching. Apparently they were imported with only one tank of 200 gallons capacity fitted to them. Thank you for your information.

Added by Graham Dickens, Australia on 27 September 2010.

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